What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

[Paul M. Cook]

I saw the thread about hands free and I too have no good use
model for when I'm in the car. I use my hands (yeah, I know
you hate me already, except that I've never had an accident
in my life and I can multiplex with the radio too. Fancy that).

My hopes are to actually BE hands free for phone & sms.

To that end, I would like to know what YOU use for hands free
(if you don't do hands free, we understand, but you don't have
to post that. Also if you hate people who use their hands, we
also already understand that, so you don't need to post).

Please post only to improve what we can all do hands free.

To that end, I ask:
What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

[Davoud]

Paul M. Cook:

> I use my hands (yeah, I know you hate me already... I've never had an accident

> in my life and I can multiplex with the radio too.

Nope. I fear for your safety and that of others in your vicinity. The
buzzword notwithstanding, humans can't multitask. That's something that
computers do, but humans can't do. If you believe that you can do that
you are deluding yourself. Driving an automobile is the most dangerous
thing that most people will ever do. It requires all of one's
attention, all the time.

> To that end, I ask: What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

I am not a physician or other person who is on call to prolong lives or
respond to emergencies. I have bluetooth connections in two of my three
cars, but I don't use them. I simply ignore texts and phone calls when
I am driving. If I'm on a local errand I'll be stopping soon. If I'm on
the Interstate there will be a rest stop or exit ahead.

--
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you will say in your entire life.

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[Tom P]

Buy a new car.

[Rod Speed]

Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote

> I saw the thread about hands free and I too have
> no good use model for when I'm in the car.

I don’t either, but plan to do something sometime,
because the fine is more than it makes sense to pay.

> I use my hands

I do too, but it doesn’t work very well at all, particularly
when calling people with iOS 9.x Siri has got a LOT less
reliable with the initial invocation, not the accuracy of
recognition. With 8.x you could just press the home
button and be sure that Siri would listen. It isn't anything
like as reliable with that now.

And answering incoming calls is pretty awkward too.
Swiping the right part of the screen while driving is
less than ideal. The stupid iphone can't be set to
auto answer because that fool Jobs decided that you
shouldn’t be allowed to do that and Ive hasn’t had
enough of a clue to change that since Jobs died.

> (yeah, I know you hate me already, except
> that I've never had an accident in my life

What matters is obviously how often
you use your cellphone while driving.

I never had an accident while driving pissed either,
but when they started to random breath tests, I am
a lot more careful about when I do that now.

> and I can multiplex with the radio too. Fancy that).

> My hopes are to actually BE hands free for phone & sms.

I don’t actually need to sms all that much while driving
so that is a minor use for me. I do make a hell of a lot of
voice calls when driving now we coordinate the garage
yard sale opening times by phone driving around, with
me normally alone in the car doing that. The other person
I do that with most of the time usually does have his wife
in the car with him but still does it almost all himself.

> To that end, I would like to know what YOU use for hands free

I use Siri to make the call and even then usually hold the
phone in my hand in speakerphone mode just because
that gets a better result for the other party voice level wise.

Not ideal because it’s a manual transmission car
and because the fine is very substantial if caught.

And I call about half the time out of the car walking
into the garage sale or around inside the garage etc
so my config needs to handle that elegantly too.

I do have a bluetooth headset that I use for listening
to podcasts when out walking for exercise which at
least in theory can be used to voice calls too, and
that would obviously work fine with the calls made
when outside the car, but it doesn’t handle the
call initiation as well and doesn’t even answer
the calls as well either. You have to hit a specific
button to answer the call and it’s a neckband
headset with the buttons behind the head.

If it wasn’t for the need to do about half the calls
when out of the car, one of those bluetooth hands
frees would work, but wouldn’t with the need to
make half the calls outside the car. Or more
strictly would sort of work but would often
be outside the bluetooth range if I just took
the handsfree with me instead of the phone.

But even that wouldn’t work because I normally
use the phone in speakerphone mode when I
am alone but don’t when inside a garage sale so
the others can't hear both sides of the conversation.

That can be hilarious at times. Glenn suggested that
I lied to someone else who was also waiting outside
a garage sale, waiting for it to open, suggested I told
the other person that it was down the other end of
the long country road so he wouldn’t be there when
the garage sale opened and we could grab the best
stuff before he came back. He wasn’t too impressed
when he heard Glenn say that because I was in
speakerphone mode.

> (if you don't do hands free, we understand, but you don't have
> to post that. Also if you hate people who use their hands, we
> also already understand that, so you don't need to post).

> Please post only to improve what we can all do hands free.

Request denied.

> To that end, I ask:
> What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

Currently I haven't found anything like a very convenient config.

I guess I need a bluetooth headset that has a more convenient
answer the incoming call button but I much prefer neckband
headsets and have enough of a problem finding one that
works well without requiring it has a good call answer button.

Corse that's because I prefer to buy $10 headsets on alibaba
etc instead of stupidly priced $100 branded neckbands that
don’t last more than a few weeks etc.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sports-Bluetooth-Stereo-Wireless-Headset-Earphone-Headphone-for-Samsung-iPhone-/161446917900?var=&hash=item2596fc770c

[Your Name]

In article
<11795$5676d54a$768987c6$19...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Paul

There's no actual need to be in phone contact 24-7, even less need
since most messages are ridiculously pointless inanities anyway (does
anyone really care that their friend just saw a cat in a bowler hat or
that Spaghetti is 2c per crate cheaper at Kmart today??). Just wait
until you've finished driving or can pull over somewhere safe to play
with your phone.

[s|b]

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 11:20:26 -0500, Paul M. Cook wrote:

> To that end, I ask:
> What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

I don't do SMS in my car, but my car came with a (very simple) Parrot
Bluetooth Car Kit. But my impression is that talking while driving is a
distraction, so I don't use it very often.

--
s|b

[Big Al]

We just bought a new car in Jan. Just turn on the bluetooth on the phone and connect to car.
The steering wheel has the answer and hangup buttons. You learn to command the car to 'Call Judy' or such. It works
easily. A bit awkward making the call, but once done it's talking to the person next to you.

No SMS, just phone.

[Andy Burns]

Big Al wrote:

> We just bought a new car in Jan. Just turn on the bluetooth on the
> phone and connect to car.
> The steering wheel has the answer and hangup buttons. You learn to
> command the car to 'Call Judy' or such. It works easily. A bit
> awkward making the call, but once done it's talking to the person next
> to you.
>
> No SMS, just phone.

I am on Android so the xpost is extraneous.

SPEAKERPHONE:
My Motorola Roadster is plenty loud and clips on the visor. It simultaneously
handles least two (maybe more?) bluetooth channels so it switches between
talking on the phone and voice directions from Google Maps concurrently
(giving the phone priority).
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/talk/car-speakerphones/roadster-2/107299.html

SETTINGS:
Android has by default a hands free mode which reads out incoming messages
and asks you if you want to answer or ignore incoming calls, and Motorola
has smartphone software that you can download that works with the Roadster.

But I don't use them because I am using a front end to the default message app
[*]Voice To Text for Multi-Apps, by dalianhank
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.voicetotext.android

When I want fully automatic voice/text, I use this sms/mms replacement app
[*]Voice Text by Matthew Rice
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matthew.rice.voice.text

This second app allows me to make and receive voice calls without touching
the phone, athough you have to get the timing just write in your responses.

Other useful voice phone/text apps are
[*]Handsfree by Aleksey Grichenko (won't work on lollipop & above)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grichenko.android.handsfree&hl=en
[*]New Car Mode by Carlos Ceriani
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cceriani.newcarmode
[*]HandsFree Answer (Auto Answer) by SureMotion
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.suremotion.handsfreeanswer&hl=en
[*]Dragon Mobile Assistant by Nuance Communications, Inc (it's like ok google)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nuance.balerion

[Rod Speed]

"Big Al" <Big...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Bit expensive buying a new car to get that tho.

I did check that and the latest version of
the cars I buy doesn’t have that even now.

So in my case it makes more sense to add it to the car.

You do miss out on the buttons on the steering wheel
but in my case it isn't that viable to have it in the car
anyway because I make about half the calls when
quite close to the car but outside it. While superficially
I could just use the traditional approach when out of
the car, its not likely to work unless I manually drop
the bluetooth connection and that is too much hassle
every time I get out of the car.

> No SMS, just phone.

[Rod Speed]

"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Finally got around to seeing how well the bluetooth headset
works for this sort of use. The short story is that it isn't very
satisfactory, particularly for outgoing calls. The problem is
that when you call using Siri, once its dialing the call it pops
up a popup where you have to select which mode to use,
the headset, the phone in speakerphone mode, or the phone
in normal mode. While the headset is ticked, if you don’t
select anything, it defaults to not using the headset for the
call. That obviously isn't ideal.

Doesn’t work too badly at all for incoming calls, you do
have to press the middle button on the headset to
answer the call, and that is behind your head with
my neckband headset, but it isn't hard to find that
button by feel alone. And it defaults to using the
headset for the audio, so that works well and is
in fact easier to answer the call with than swiping
the lock screen to answer an incoming call.

I've also had a more careful look at using Siri with
iOS 9.x and it looks like a brain fart on my part.
If you press and hold the home button on the phone
until you get the double blip in the headset, Siri
does reliably interpret what you say after that.

BUT when you don’t use the headset, there is no
double blip in the speaker anymore with 9.x which
is why I found it a lot less reliable than it was with
8.x which did double blip in the speaker.

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

Fixed that one. The answer is to have it set to automatic.
You still get the popup, but the 3 alternatives are greyed
out and it defaults to the headset for the audio. Not at all
clear why it shows that since you can't override the
automatic setting for just that call.

> Doesn’t work too badly at all for incoming calls, you do
> have to press the middle button on the headset to
> answer the call, and that is behind your head with
> my neckband headset, but it isn't hard to find that
> button by feel alone. And it defaults to using the
> headset for the audio, so that works well and is
> in fact easier to answer the call with than swiping
> the lock screen to answer an incoming call.

Haven't tried how well the mic works yet tho. That
must be back at the ear with the neckband headset
since there is no mini boom mic on it.

[Rod Speed]

"troppo" <Yo...@email.com> wrote in message
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> "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net> wrote in
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>
>> I saw the thread about hands free and I too have no good use
>> model for when I'm in the car.
>

>> [snip]

>
>> To that end, I ask:
>> What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?
>

> I have $20 Dolphin bluetooth handsfree clipped to the sun visor. Press
> once
> to answer call, no need to take eyes off road. That complies here. Doing
> anything else like texting or making calls risks accident and/or $300
> fine.
> The Dolphin works ok if volume is at max, unless I'm in low gear (uphill)
> or caller won't speak up or talks too fast.
>
> How the hell do you expect to handle sms handsfree?

By having it read you incoming SMSs and allowing
you to
dictate what you want sent as an SMS.

[Rod Speed]

In fact it works fine.

[Michael Eyd]

Am 21.12.2015 um 00:06 schrieb Rod Speed:

> You do miss out on the buttons on the steering wheel
> but in my case it isn't that viable to have it in the car
> anyway because I make about half the calls when
> quite close to the car but outside it. While superficially
> I could just use the traditional approach when out of
> the car, its not likely to work unless I manually drop
> the bluetooth connection and that is too much hassle
> every time I get out of the car.

Not if you connect your handsfree device in the car to the mains of the
car in a way, that the handsfree automatically switches off (and on, for
that matter) once the mains goes down because you switch the car off.

Just an idea.

Best regards,

Michael

[Michael Eyd]

Am 21.12.2015 um 08:38 schrieb Rod Speed:

>> How the hell do you expect to handle sms handsfree?
>
> By having it read you incoming SMSs and allowing
> you to
> dictate what you want sent as an SMS.

Which is exactly what Apple CarPlay will do for you. :-)

Not perfect (especially when dictating), but quite a help. And you don't
have to pick up your phone, you control it via the on-board display. :-)

Best regards,

Michael

[Jolly Roger]

You can already do all of that without CarPlay. Set Siri to activate
with "Hello Siri" when the phone is connected to power. Then just ask
Siri to send or read a message.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

[Paul M. Cook]

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 06:20:30 +0000, troppo wrote:

> I have $20 Dolphin bluetooth handsfree clipped to the sun visor. Press once
> to answer call, no need to take eyes off road. That complies here. Doing
> anything else like texting or making calls risks accident and/or $300 fine.
> The Dolphin works ok if volume is at max, unless I'm in low gear (uphill)
> or caller won't speak up or talks too fast.

I have a bluetooth speakerset also, and while it has buttons, that's not
hands free.

I currently get a response when a call comes in of the sort:
"call from CONTACT-NAME-or-NUMBER... say answer or ignore".

So, receiving calls is easy.

It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.

> How the hell do you expect to handle sms handsfree?

Umm.. the same way we do calls hands free.

The incoming text is read out to me.
The command to reply is asked.
The outgoing text is spoken by me.
The command to send is asked.

I already have this, but it's a kluge.

So I wanted to know if anyone had a better hands-free setup
than mine, so that I could improve on what I came up with
on my own.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2015-12-21, Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:
>
> It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.

"Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
"Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"

Can't get much easier than that.

[Paul M. Cook]

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 15:49:27 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
> "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"

Yeah, if it actually worked.

[nospam]

In article
<5d69$56786689$8713712f$20...@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>, Paul M.

Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

>
> > "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
> > "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"
>
> Yeah, if it actually worked.

it works rather well.

[Rod Speed]

Michael Eyd <inv...@eyd.de> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

Interesting idea, thanks for that. Think I'll get one of
the cheap bluetooth handsfrees for cars and try that.

The neckband headset does work, but isn't perfect when
talking to people in person inside the garage sale.

[Rod Speed]

Jolly Roger <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote

> Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote

>> It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.

> "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
> "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"

> Can't get much easier than that.

Problem is that it only works when the iphone
is powered and its not very convenient to unplug
it when leaving the car and returning to the car
very frequently with the garage sales in my case.

Maybe its time to get one of those power packs
so the iphone is powered all the time so Hey Siri
works all the time and get one that is in the form of
a case so its easy to handle when using the phone.

Tho not essential I spose if I keep using the
bluetooth headset/neckband so I can keep
the phone in my pocket. No big deal to keep
both the phone and the power pack in my
pocket I spose as long as its not too big.

[Rod Speed]

Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote

> Jolly Roger wrote

>> "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
>> "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"

> Yeah, if it actually worked.

It does for me most of the time.

Not anything like as good for navigation
but works fine for calls and messaging.

And would fix the new problem with iOS 9.x where
it no longer beeps in speakerphone mode when
Siri is ready to accept your instructions.

[nospam]

In article <ddr930...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed

<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.
>
> > "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
> > "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"
>
> > Can't get much easier than that.
>
> Problem is that it only works when the iphone
> is powered and its not very convenient to unplug
> it when leaving the car and returning to the car
> very frequently with the garage sales in my case.

on a 6s/6s+ it works on battery (if enabled), and in a car, it's
trivial to plug it in anyway.

[Jolly Roger]

On 2015-12-21, Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

Works great.

[Jolly Roger]

Yup. Non-issue.

[Rod Speed]

nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote

> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.

>>> "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
>>> "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"

>>> Can't get much easier than that.

>> Problem is that it only works when the iphone
>> is powered and its not very convenient to unplug
>> it when leaving the car and returning to the car
>> very frequently with the garage sales in my case.

> on a 6s/6s+ it works on battery (if enabled),

OK. I've basically decided not to upgrade until
there is Apple Pay in most of the places I buy
stuff much, particularly supermarkets and I'm
not going to go with Amex any time soon.

I'd much rather have inductive charging too,
so likely will wait for 7 or 7s at least.

> and in a car, it's trivial to plug it in anyway.

Not when you are in and out of the car at a high
rate like I am on the garage/yard sale run.

In theory inductive charging would fix that,
but in that situation I would much prefer to
have the phone in my pocket all the time
and use a bluetooth headset so even inductive
charging wouldn't help in that situation.

[Rod Speed]

"Jolly Roger" <jolly...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> On 2015-12-21, nospam <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <ddr930...@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
>><rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> >> It's making calls and text which need a better hands free tool.
>>>
>>> > "Hey Siri, call Sandra at home".
>>> > "Hey Siri, message Sandra, 'Leaving now'"
>>>
>>> > Can't get much easier than that.
>>>
>>> Problem is that it only works when the iphone
>>> is powered and its not very convenient to unplug
>>> it when leaving the car and returning to the car
>>> very frequently with the garage sales in my case.
>>
>> on a 6s/6s+ it works on battery (if enabled), and in a car, it's
>> trivial to plug it in anyway.
>
> Yup. Non-issue.

Not when you are in and out of the car at

a high rate during the garage/yard sale run.

[Your Name]

In article
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Five minutes later ...
Message from Sam Dra:
"Oi! I hit a pedestrian trying to spot you waving!"

Five minutes later again ...
Message from Sundry Supplies:
"Hi, your weaving items are being dispatched now.
Thanks for the order."

;-)

[Danny D.]

Rod Speed wrote, on Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:16:06 +1100:

> Interesting idea, thanks for that. Think I'll get one of
> the cheap bluetooth handsfrees for cars and try that.

I've used the ear pieces and the visor mounted bluetooth,
with and without the RF transmitter to the radio.

One thing to make sure of, which the technical guys know
better than I do, is that you have at least TWO kinds of
bluetooth in whatever receiver you use.

That way, one bluetooth "channel" is used for phone
conversations while the other channel is used for whatever
else you have going on (music, audiobook, driving directions,
etc.).

[Oscar]

On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 08:28:12 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:

>> Yeah, if it actually worked.
>
> It does for me most of the time.

The problem I have with Siri (and OK Google) is that
they're like those crappy all-in-one tools which do
no job well.

I'd prefer a wrench or screwdriver to the all-in-one
tools just as I'd prefer a dedicated text-to-speech
tool for SMS.

[Rod Speed]

"Danny D." <dannyd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Why does it need separate channels when the
phone shares the other stuff with the phone
conversation when the phone voice traffic is active ?

[Rod Speed]

Oscar <os...@notme.invalid> wrote

> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Yeah, if it actually worked.

>> It does for me most of the time.

> The problem I have with Siri (and OK Google) is that they're
> like those crappy all-in-one tools which do no job well.

Siri does in fact do what I want to do, initiate voice calls,
very well indeed.

Not as good for setting up the navigation to a new
destination, but that is MUCH harder to do with the
very wide variety of street names seen in real life.

When its setting up a voice call, all it has to do
is compare what name you have said with your
contacts and ask you which one you mean when
some are close sound wise. A much easier task.

> I'd prefer a wrench or screwdriver to the
> all-in-one tools just as I'd prefer a dedicated
> text-to-speech tool for SMS.

No reason why that can't be done transparently
with something like Siri which can use a different
approach with speech to text than it does with
making a voice call to who you say you want to call.

[Bruce Sinclair]

In article <201220151244354305%st...@sky.net>, a...@bbb.ccc wrote:
>Paul M. Cook:
>
>> I use my hands (yeah, I know you hate me already... I've never had an
> accident
>> in my life and I can multiplex with the radio too.
>
>Nope. I fear for your safety and that of others in your vicinity. The
>buzzword notwithstanding, humans can't multitask. That's something that
>computers do, but humans can't do. If you believe that you can do that
>you are deluding yourself. Driving an automobile is the most dangerous
>thing that most people will ever do. It requires all of one's
>attention, all the time.

This has been pointed out to him before, as has the fact that this has been
shown to be the case experimentally (ie there's data to back it up).
He apparently chooses wilful ignorance. <sigh>

Suggest you don't waste your time trying to 'convince' him of the facts - he
won't listen. :)

[Your Name]

In article <n6uros$m4l$1...@dont-email.me>, Bruce Sinclair <no...@no.way>
wrote:

Yesterday I watched an interview with a moron from Ford (I think it
was) at the Consumer Electronics Show in America. He was going on about
how they want to add all sorts of crap to the car's electronic
functions via the internet (things like controlling the lights or
heating at home, etc.). He then had the idiocy to say they were putting
all this crap onto the car because it was distracting and dangerous for
drivers to do those things via their mobile phones.

Well, DUH!!! It'll still be distracting for drivers trying to do those
things from their car's electronics too ... even if they used silly
speech (non)recognition. :-\

Simple Fact: If you're driving the car, then just *DRIVE* the {BEEP}ing
car. Don't play around with all sorts of other crap - that can all
wait.

[tlvp]

On Mon, 11 Jan 2016 01:10:37 GMT, Bruce Sinclair wrote:

> This has been pointed out to him before, as has the fact that this has been
> shown to be the case experimentally (ie there's data to back it up).
> He apparently chooses wilful ignorance. <sigh>
>
> Suggest you don't waste your time trying to 'convince' him of the facts - he
> won't listen. :)

Don't worry too much about it. Such lunacy is intrinsically self-limiting,
as one good accident will put a stop to it forever. Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

[Jolly Roger]

Possibly harming other innocent people at the same time...

[F Murtz]

Paul M. Cook wrote:
> I saw the thread about hands free and I too have no good use

> model for when I'm in the car. I use my hands (yeah, I know
> you hate me already, except that I've never had an accident
> in my life and I can multiplex with the radio too. Fancy that).

>
> My hopes are to actually BE hands free for phone & sms.
>

> To that end, I would like to know what YOU use for hands free

> (if you don't do hands free, we understand, but you don't have
> to post that. Also if you hate people who use their hands, we
> also already understand that, so you don't need to post).
>
> Please post only to improve what we can all do hands free.
>

> To that end, I ask:
> What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?
>

I put an app " hands free " in my phone set it to auto answer and throw
it on the seat or console, it works well even under a bit of stuff.I
talk a bit louder that is all and do not touch the phone at all.

[Lewis]

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Paul M. Cook <pmc...@gte.net> wrote:

> What are YOU doing for hands free phone/sms in the car?

On very rare occasions I will use Siri to send an SMS or iMessage when

I'm in the car.

The trouble is that usually my phone is connected to the car via
bluetooth and the car's own microphone is complete and utter shit
compared to the mic on the iPhone.

I do use Siri for routing though, even if I have to sometimes turn off
bluetooth for that to work well.

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